The Bizarre

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Flier Speaking - In the Bible it said they placed rods in the water underneath the sheep and they turned colors. I put metal rods under my loft; the rods became magnetized naturally or supernaturally and the birds changed colors.

Flier Speaking - The roll gene is locked in the color modifier somehow. Rollers of a certain color or spread just roll. (Giving an explanation why he feels an Andalusian rolls)

Flier Speaking - I do not use corn in my feed. I stopped getting canker when I stopped using corn.

Flier Speaking - Grizzles roll hotter. A double dose of grizzle is what I use to get the frequency back into my birds.

Flier Speaking - You can breed and feed for frequency.

Flier Speaking - I have been using ionizer bulbs for light in my lofts and they seem to be working at taking much of the dust from the air. They are a little expensive, but the results are positive.

Flier Speaking - It always amazes me that everyone who use to have Racing Homers always had champions

Flier Typing - The true Birmingham Roller is defined and identified by performance only. It is not a specific breed. A stiff roller can never be a Birmingham Roller nor would you call it a roller. A "TRUE BIRMINGHAM ROLLER" is nothing more than a common Roller that performs to a higher level. According to some breeders, if it doesn't roll or kit, or if it flips like a tumbler or flies like a commie, and is unable to produce rollers that can do any better, it is still considered a Birmingham Roller based only on its Pedigree. I hear Pensom has rolled over in his grave because of this absurd notion. The Birmingham Roller, is as far as I know, the ONLY creature that is considered a BREED that is determined by its performance,

Flier Typing - (In response to the above flier) That is the most ignorant thing I have read in a long time! A Thoroughbred that doesn't race successfully is just a horse? A Birmingham Roller that doesn't roll well enough is just a pigeon? The Racing Homer that gets lost is just a pigeon? An English Setter that doesn't hunt well is just a dog? How ignorant can you get?

Flier Typing - We never had the talk about the Birmingham being defined only by performance until the rare color breeders brought up the idea. It is all a scam perpetrated by color breeders.

Flier Speaking - The best product to put on your loft floor is dried pigeon poop.

Flier Speaking - It amazes me that the only living animal that some of us believe "eye signing" works is the Racing Homer; you know, the five ring bullshit and the gravel eye is a breeder malarkey. It is all hookist - pookist bullshit.

Flier Speaking - An Andalusian is a mutt; a mongrel. It is a spread of indigo and indigo was crossed into the Birmingham from a non-rolling breed.

Flier Speaking - If there is a grain that has no earthly value it would be barley.

Recipe Time - This is for Pigeon Turd Tea. Start in the morning by taking a five gallon bucket and fill it up to 1/3 with dried pigeon turds. It helps that they are dried as to tone down the ammonia with most of it being evaporated in the drying process. Then fill up the bucket the rest of the way with water and leave it set for the rest of the day and over night. The next morning when you water your garden put no more than a cup on each plant. After watering fill the bucket back up with water; leave set for rest of day and overnight; and repeat this with each days plant watering until the tea is clear and then remake a batch of the tea as described. Cat Turd Tea also works well. Happy gardening.

Flier Speaking - The Parlor Roller is pitiful. To me it is an ugly sight to watch, grossly obscene, the flopping on the ground and unable to fly. This is genetics gone wrong

Flier Speaking - Crossing a non-performance pigeon into the Birmingham Roller for a color or pattern is not as taboo as you make it out to be. I think the problem is with you for making it out to be so taboo. There is room enough for everybody in the roller world. (Done in response to the below flier's statement)

Flier Speaking - Out crossing the Birmingham Roller with a non-performing breed just for a color or pattern is taboo and should be strongly discouraged.

Flier Speaking - If a Birmingham Roller is crossed for a color or pattern with a non-performing pigeon and the offspring are bred back to a pure Birmingham for approximately 9 generations that offspring is now a pure Birmingham.

Flier Speaking - (In response to the above flier) Once a mutt or mongrel always a mutt or mongrel; never to be pure again. Always will have the other breed's genetic make up in some form or another somewhere in the maze of chromosomes.

Flier Typing - Just remember I lost respect for you for disrespecting The Birmingham Roller by calling your color crosses Birmingham Rollers.

Flier Typing - If the parentage is a Birmingham Roller the off spring are Birmingham Rollers regardless of the performance level. Some will spin for several yards like a ball and snap out of the roll correctly. Some will not roll at all or just do flips. Some will roll too often and not be able to kit properly because of it. Some will plate roll. Some will twizzle. Some will switch wing. Some will roll down striking the ground or other objects often times injuring themselves with some dying. Some will not kit. But they are all Birmingham Rollers; they are a specific breed originating from the same area in England. Now that we all understand that we can go forward with a performance standard creation and deciding in the process what is acceptable and what is not. It also has to be realized that no standard will be liked by everyone.

Flier Typing - You can't make chicken soup out of chicken shit (trying to emphasize that you got to start off with the best stock you can find or afford)

Flier Speaking - (3/20/15) It is best to move your birds when changing a bird(s) from one team to another at night so they will wake up with their new team.